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Errata and omissions
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FT-817.
Important Notice -
Please
read this warning:
This document describes procedures that could
result
in voiding of the warranty of your radio.
It also describes procedures and modifications that, if not
precisely
and properly carried out, could result in a radio that does not work or
is damaged.
Furthermore, while reasonable efforts have been made to assure the
accuracy
of this information, it is possible that there are some errors, or that
your (or my) radio is of a slightly different version and thus,
differences
may exist.
It is assumed that anyone following suggestions made on this page is
already thoroughly familiar with the technologies and techniques
involved
and possesses the necessary skill and knowledge to make their own
judgment
as to the appropriateness and validity of the the information.
If you choose to do any of the procedures outlined, you do so
at your own risk. You are solely responsible for any damage,
voiding
of warranty, or other harm that may come about by following these
procedures.
Further information - The following technical information may be
found at this site:
- FT-817
Schematics.
These schematics are translated from the .PDF files originally found on
the FCC web site.
- Circuit
description
of the FT-817. This is a version of the circuit
description,
different from that found in the '817s service manual.
- FT-817
Radio modifications.
This page details some minor modifications to the FT-817. (Some
of the information contained on that page was formerly on this
page.)
For reference, my FT-817 is the standard USA version with the first
4 serial number characters being 1D21.
Abstract:
Anyone who has taken a close look at the FT-817 operating or service
manual has likely noticed that there are a number of errors. This
is particularly noticeable in the service manual where, if the printed
instructions were followed to the letter, the result would likely be a
radio that functioned poorly.
Also to be included are a few operational "issues" having to do with
possible design and/or manufacturing defects, or just a few things that
don't work as one might expect that they should. These include:
- The presence of birdies in the FT-817's receiver.
- (I'm sure that this list will get bigger. Send an
email
to
me if you wish to contribute...)
Service Manual Errata:
Note: This section will probably be expanded as more
information
is gathered. This information is with respect to the manual
printed
in 2000 with the bar-code number (on the back cover) of
E13779000.
The number "0011G-0K" also appears in the lower-left corner on this
same
cover.
Another note: Yaesu has apparently revised their service
manual. I would appreciate knowing how some of the procedures in
the revised manual have been changed. Also, let me know if there
are some new, improved errors in the revision.
Alignment Errata and comments:
- Pg. 16 - Carrier Balance Adjustment, step 2: This
step is
easily done by monitoring on another SSB/CW receiver that is
loosely
coupled to the FT-817's output. Do not connect the receiver
directly
to the FT-817's output!
- Pg. 16 - SSB IF Adjustment, step 5: Adjust for MINIMUM
voltage
- Comment: If the SSB IF Adjustment
step
was completed,
the next step, FM IF ALIGNMENT is unnecessary.
- Pg. 17 - Noise Blanker Adjustment, step 2: Adjust
for MAXIMUM
voltage. See below for additional information and a
revised
procedure.
- Pg. 18 - CM Coupler Balance Adjustment, all steps:
These
steps
may be done using FM. Use high power.
- Pg. 18 - CM Coupler Balance Adjustment, steps 2 and 3:
To
assure best performance on HF and 6 meters, it is suggested that once TC3003
is adjusted, that re-does this step on 6 meters and other HF bands, as
well as observe the reading on the front panel (with the meter switched
to SWR mode) to make sure that the reading is minimized.
It
should be possible, after a bit of trial and error, to find a setting
of TC3003
that provides a reasonable compromise on all HF bands and
6 meters.
Software Menu Alignment Errata
and comments:
Signal
in dBu
|
Signal
in dbm |
Signal
in uV
|
|
Signal
in dBu
|
Signal
in dbm
|
Signal
in uV
|
|
3
|
-104
|
1.4
|
|
25
|
-82
|
17.7
|
|
5
|
-102
|
1.8
|
|
32
|
-75
|
39.7
|
|
6
|
-101
|
2.0
|
|
36
|
-71
|
63.0
|
|
9
|
-98
|
2.8
|
|
39
|
-68
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89.0
|
|
10
|
-97
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3.2
|
|
86
|
-21
|
1990
|
|
12
|
-95
|
4.0
|
|
|
|
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Conversion chart showing the
relationship between
dBu, dBm, and microvolts (at 50 ohms) for signal levels mentioned on
this
page
- Before going through this procedure, record each of the
76
settings.
If you screw things up, this will allow you to restore them to what
they
were before you started.
- Note that just by reading menu item #17 you will
likely
screw
up your voltmeter calibration! Be prepared to re-calibrate
the
radio's voltmeter if you press the "F" key. If you
do not wish to change the voltmeter calibration, exit the menu by
shutting
off the '817.
- Before starting this procedure, it is recommended that you go to
the
following
bands and set the following frequencies. This will save you from
having to go into and out of the alignment menu to adjust them later:
- 1.909 MHz
- 7.010 MHz
- 21.105 MHz
- 51.050 MHz
- 145.940 MHz
- 440.000 MHz
- Note carefully that some steps require pressing the A key
to
set/calculate/save
a setting. Note also that when done with the entire alignment,
one
must press the Function key to save the settings: Turning
off the power without doing this can result in lost settings.
- Yaesu (and other Japanese manufacturers) use a signal calibration
based
on dBu where 0dBu represents 1.0 microvolts. To convert dBu to
dbm, subtract
107 from dbu. Refer to the table for a handy list of dBu
versus
dbm/microvolt values.
- Pg 19 - FM S-Meter Adjustment: As described, this
alignment
will result in the FM S-Meter having a useful range of 15-20 db.
The circuitry (on my '817, at least) is capable of much more than that,
so I used a setting of 39 dBu (-68 dbm) for step 3. It
may
be worth verifying that the S-meter range is not "compressed" at the
higher
signal levels (i.e. more db per step.)
- Pg. 19 - FM Center Meter Adjustment, steps 1-2:
This step
is rather confusing, so do it this way instead:
- Tune the receiver to 145.940 (where you already set it)
- Set the signal generator to 145.937. (Note that any
frequency may
be used - except 76-108 MHz - as long as the signal generator is set 3
KHz below the receive frequency.)
- On step 3, press the A key several times and note the
"average"
value from several key presses and use it. Note that you can set
any value you like by rotating the tuning knob.
- Pg. 20 - FM Center Meter Adjustment, steps 3-4: Do
as in
steps
1-2, except set the signal generator 3 KHz above the receive
frequency.
- Pg. 20 - FM Squelch Adjustment: Again, I would
recommend
pressing
the A button several times and setting the average.
- Pg. 20 - FM Squelch Adjustment - Note: If you want
to
increase
the range of the squelch control (that is, if you want to be able to
fully
open the squelch all of the time) then settings of menu items 15/16 may
be decreased slightly.
- Pg. 20 - Power Supply Voltage Adjustment - Note:
This
step
does not require that you operate the radio from
precisely
13.8 volts. It does, however, require that you accurately know
the
supply voltage. To perform this step, multiply the voltage by 10
and round to the nearest integer and set this parameter to that
number.
For example, for 10.37 volts this would be 103.7 which is rounded up to
104.
- Note: If you use the supplied power cord for the
FT-817, it is
of light enough gauge that the voltage reaching the radio may be 0.1
volts
or so low, causing the display to read slightly high when a heavier
cable
is used. This isn't a big problem, but it is something of
which
you should be aware.
- Pg. 20 - Over-Current Protection Adjustment - Note:
The
procedure
described does not work as described unless
you first do the following for each of the "bands" (i.e. HF1, HF2, HF3,
50M, VHF, and UHF):
- Go to the "Hi" power adjustment for the band in question (i.e.
#24
HF1-HI,
etc. in the RF Power Adjustment step) and note the setting
(which
you should have already done before you started.) Set this value
to 255.
- Then, go to the corresponding TX Gain adjustment (i.e. #48
HF1TXG, etc.
in the TX Gain Adjustment Step) and note its value - then set
it
to 255 also. (This "Hi" and gain adjustment is also required for
the corresponding settings on HF2, HF3, 50M, VHF, and UHF.) This
allows the FT-817 to run "wide open." If this is not done, you
cannot
get enough RF output in order to "trigger" the overcurrent protection.
- Note: It is possible to overdrive some of the
RF
amplifier
stages with excess gain. If you can't get the 7.0 watts out on a
particular band, adjust the appropriate gain parameter (e.g. HF1TXG)
downwards
a bit and see if excess drive is causing the amplifier chain to "fold
back." Warning:
It is possible to get up to 15 watts out of the radio during this
procedure,
so be aware that you may be stressing components! Minimize the
amount
of time during which you are running such high power!
- After doing the Over-Current Protection Adjustment
procedure,
proceed
with the RF Power Adjustment and TX Gain Adjustment
procedures
- or reset them to their original values.
- Note: Although the procedure calls out
keying
the transmitter
using CW, it is possible to change the mode to FM while in "calibrate"
mode and key the transmitter with the microphone to accomplish this
step.
- Comment: The preliminary version of the
FT-817 service
manual specifies setting the output power at which the overcurrent
protection
is set as being 6.0 watts. (Would someone please let me know
what
the revised version of the manual says?)
- Pg. 20 - RF Power Adjustment: Although the
procedure
calls
out keying the transmitter using CW, it is possible to change the mode
to FM and key the transmitter with the microphone to accomplish this
step.
- Pg. 20 - TX Gain Adjustment: Although the
procedure
calls
out keying the transmitter using CW, it is possible to change the mode
to FM and key the transmitter with the microphone to accomplish this
step.
- Pg. 20 - Power Meter Sensitivity Adjustment:
Although the
procedure calls out keying the transmitter using CW, it is possible to
change the mode to FM and key the transmitter with the microphone to
accomplish
this step.
- Pg. 21 - Reverse ALC Adjustment: Although the
procedure
calls
out keying the transmitter using CW, it is possible to change the mode
to FM and key the transmitter with the microphone to accomplish this
step.
Birdies in the FT-817:
Like any radio in which multiple frequency sources are used, the
FT-817
has its fair share of "birdies". "Birdies" are (usually) weak
signals
that may appear in the receiver on various frequencies - generated
within
the receiver itself - and they usually take the form of a CW
carrier.
This section isn't intended to provide an excuse for them, but rather
to
(somewhat) explain their existence and how to minimize them.
These birdies are a result of the (inevitable) interaction between
various
circuits within the radio. While careful design and attention to
shielding, bypassing, and layout can reduce these, it is nearly
impossible
to build a modern receiver that is completely devoid of them. The
small size of the '817 makes avoidance of birdies even more of a
challenge
than with "full-sized" rigs.
It should be noted that some later production runs (at least those
serial
numbers starting with 1D21 - maybe earlier) of the '817 include some
minor
component additions (usually chip capacitors) that reduce the intensity
of many of the birdies.
Fortunately, very few truly strong birdies exist within amateur
bands
on the '817. How you operate your '817 can greatly
influence how many birdies you can hear and how strong they are.
Here are a few tips on maximizing your annoyance with
birdies:
- Use an antenna connected directly to the radio. There are a
few
birdies
that are (apparently) generated by the microprocessor (a.k.a. CPU) in
the
radio - and the CPU on this radio is in the front panel.
If
you insist on connecting an antenna directly to the front of the radio,
you
will hear more birdies than otherwise. An example
of this is the noise near 36.82 MHz (plus or minus a few 10's of KHz -
you might have to look for it.) If you tune this noise in and
then
connect the rubber duck antenna to the front connector (don't forget to
select it, first...) it will become remarkably stronger!
Why?
The CPU and antenna are within inches of each other.
- Place your antenna as close as possible to the '817. A
number of
the birdies don't actually get into the internal circuitry of the
radio:
They can "escape" through the microphone connector/cord, power cable,
and
any accessory/data cables. If you insist on running your '817
right
next to your antenna, you will pick up some of these
birdies.
The fact that you probably won't have a very good ground plane when
operating
in the manner probably doesn't help things.
- Tune around on the '817 in CW/USB/LSB mode (with no antenna
connected)
and see how many weak birdies you can hear. You will be
amazed!
Now, try this with any other modern HF rig. You
will
be amazed! Birdies come with the territory, unfortunately.
Some people have been disappointed with the '817 in terms of the number
of birdies that it appears to have. I would suspect that some of
the worst effects are experience by those using an HF/6 Meter/VHF/UHF
antennas
that connects directly to the '817 on the front BNC connector. As
mentioned above, this is the worst case scenario for
hearing
birdies on this, or any radio. I'll bet that if
you
were to take your "home" HF rig and slap an antenna right on it (with
no
ground plane to speak of...) you'd hear more birdies on that, too (not
to mention "birdies" from your computer, your TV, your VCR, your...)
One thing to keep in mind about birdies on HF frequencies is that
they
are usually so weak that normal atmospheric noise will cover them
enough
that they won't cause difficulty with communications. Let's take
as an example the well-known birdie on 40 meters on approximately 7.238
MHz (how's that for a band with no undesired
carriers?)
When tuning this in with no antenna connected, this birdie sounds quite
strong. But (on my '817, at least) it is under 1 microvolt in
equivalent
strength (less than S1.) If I connect the radio to an antenna,
this
birdie is pretty much lost under atmospheric noise.
Now, were I using a mobile antenna or one of those collapsible whips
that attach directly to the '817, the birdie would seem to be much
stronger.
Why? Two possible reasons: The relatively poor antenna
(face
it, you aren't going to get a mobile or a collapsible BNC-mounted
antenna
that works anywhere near as well as a full-sized dipole) doesn't hear
the
signals on the band as well as a full-sized antenna - including
atmospheric
noise. Also, an antenna that is mounted directly to the radio
(besides
being inefficient...) is more likely to pick up signals emanating
directly
from the radio.
Speaking of the '7238 birdie, where does it come from? It
would
appear to emanate from the BFO synthesizer, Q1031. The fact that
adjusting the PBT causes this birdie to shift would tend to validate
this
theory. Another theory proposes that this signal is somehow
related
to harmonic of the 22.625 MHz reference oscillator interacting with the
LO/IF in some manner.
No significant birdies were noted in the 2 meter band. Here
are
a few more of the stronger birdies and their possible sources.
Note:
These were noted using CW mode :
- 21.71344 MHz, S7. This is 910 KHz below the reference
frequency
- suspiciously twice the 2nd IF away.
- 22.625 MHz, below S1. This is the master
reference
frequency in the radio.
- 35.3916 and 36.8136. These are both at least S4.
Judging by
their sound, these would appear to be generated by the CPU itself.
- 39.641, S8. I'm not sure where this one comes from, but I'm
glad
it isn't in a ham band...
- Starting at approx. 108.00678 and extending through 142 MHz or so
there
are some very weak birdies every 285 KHz. These appear to be
related
to Q1031 as they shift frequency with a change in the PBT setting.
- 113.125, S5. This is the 5th harmonic of the 22.625 MHz
reference.
- 135.750, <S1. The 6th harmonic of the 22.625 MHz
reference.
- 429.875, <S1, The 19th harmonic of the 22.625 MHz reference
- 436.0272 - S4, 113.8847, 150.3275, 426.134 - S1, 128.8333,
130.4496,
134.8385,
424.0823, 424.8587 - <S1, 'Dunno...
- Starting at approx. 420.2346 there are some very weak birdies
approximately
every 768 KHz. These may also be related to Q1031.
- There are certainly others, but I think that this covers the ones
that
are likely to be annoying. If you want to add some to the list,
then
send an email to me.
What do I think about the '817?
Despite what has been said on this page, I really do
like
my '817 - warts and all. I might point out that like any
complicated
piece of equipment, it is unreasonable for anyone to "get it all right"
the very first time - and I'm not overly concerned. Also, one
must
keep in mind that this is not the top-of-the-line
radio.
Cramming thus much "stuff" into such a small volume is likely to
require
a few compromises. No if someone doesn't learn
from
feedback and/or their mistakes and improve their future products, then
I start to worry...
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are
expressed or implied. The information on this and related pages
should
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you
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