The FT-817 includes the capability to read the S meter via the serial port. This article describes how an FT-817 can be used to accurately measure received signal strength over a range of more than 50 db on multiple bands and how that information may be used to characterize the coverage area and performance of a repeater's transmit antenna.
Several tasks required of the '817 and the program:
Definition of the problem:
The '76 repeater has a problem.
It didn't always have this problem: In about 1976, when the transmit and receive antennas were originally installed coverage was excellent in all directions, limited only by geography. Coverage to the south was a bit limited, owing to the mountain range, but that was okay because there was almost no population in that direction. A web page about the 146.76 repeater may be found here. The page has pictures and information that can help explain the problem.
In 1997 we had to replace the antennas. This was not because there was obviously anything wrong with the original antennas - except that they were on the wrong tower.
Let me explain: The original tower (the one on which the antennas were installed in 1976) was a guyed tower, approximately 100 feet high, and it was scheduled to come down within a year. It seems that it had outgrown its usefulness, not being up to the task of holding the new antennas expected to be required in the future. Also, a high-powered UHF TV transmitter was going on the air from a nearby site: With the over 2 megawatts of ERP, it seemed prudent to replace everything and start from a clean slate to avoid IMD problems resulting from old, corroded hardware.
So, we had to put antennas on the new tower. We
decided to replace the antennas as well - considering that they were
original ones - still in service after 20 years. Anyway,
new antennas/feedline before removing the old antennas allowed nearly
operation of the repeater during the transition.
The '76 repeater has always used separate transmit and receive
Doing so greatly reduces the isolation requirements of the
It also goes a long way toward improving effective repeater sensitivity
as not only are duplexer losses reduced, but having the receiver
located away from the transmit antenna (or even other
transmit antennas for that matter) can significantly lower the
noise floor by removing broadband noise sources and potential sources
To this end, the new receive antenna is located at the top of the tower, its base being at the 120 foot level while the transmit antenna was located amongst other transmit antennas at the 60 foot level.
Initial tests concluded that the new receive antenna/location worked at least 3-4 db better than its predecessor. The transmit antenna seemed to work at least as well the original... or so we thought until we started getting reports from other directions.
Toward the East the transmit signals seemed to work every bit as well as it had previously. To the North, however, (in the precise direction of the Salt Lake valley) things seemed to be different: Some people reported it as being "about the same" while others could hardly hear it at all.
In the years since the new antennas were installed the picture has become clearer: In fact, to directions from the Northeast through the Southwest the signals from '76 seemed to be as good or better than before. Directly to the North (in the western side of the Salt Lake valley) the signals were definitely pretty poor: One could easily get into the repeater using an HT, but one couldn't hear it very well. Even mobile stations complained a bit about the weak signals there.
It was time to measure the signals to find out exactly what was going on.
When one does measuring of signal strength from a repeater, there is the time-tested method which consists of these basic steps:
Flash Forward to the 21st century:
Nowadays, this sort of data collection can be nearly automatic. Several commonly-available pieces of equipment can be utilized:
I already had the GPS receiver: An old Magellan GPS4000 (non-XL version) with the serial interface. My software had to extract the NMEA sentences and parse them to get the data I needed to determine my location, the current time, quality of the data, and the bearing and distance data to the waypoint - the repeater in our case.
I also had the '817 and the official CAT-62 interface cable - so I
able to read the "S-Meter" from the '817. I quickly wrote a
program to read this data and sat down to make use of this data.
I soon realized that I had a problem...
Making the FT-817 S-Meter data useful:
There are two completely separate S-meter circuits available on
bands from the '817: The AGC-based S-meter available in the
modes and the RSSI (Received Signal Strength Indicator)
available in the FM mode. (See Table 1).
shipped from the factory, the S-Meter on my '817 (but
not necessarily yours) was as Table 1 shows. As is typical for
circuits, there are is on-chip circuitry that performs a logarithmic
so the RSSI voltage (digitized by the FT-817) is proportional to the
strength in db - and with reasonable accuracy!
Judging by this data I could see that the FM S-Meter reading was more appropriate to weak signals and the SSB/CW/AM scale was more useful with strong signals. I even wrote the first algorithm to switch the radio between AM (with its wider IF filter being less affected by incidental modulation on the repeater) and FM in order to get the "best of both worlds" - that is, take data from both scales.
There is a problem with this: The "average" signal strength of the repeaters around here is between -50 dbm and -90 dbm - a range that is wholly outside that available via the FM S-Meter - where I had decent resolution. What could I do? Clearly, knowing the signal strength to the nearest 5-10 db is hardly adequate - and such would be the case were I to use only the SSB/CW/AM S-Meter. I could manually switch some external attenuation in and out to be able to use the FM S-Meter, but this didn't seem to be particularly desirable.
I took another look at the '817 and noticed that there were two
in the "Soft Calibration" menu referring to the FM S-Meter: #9,
and #10, FM-FS. These two parameters do precisely as their labels
imply: They set the amount of signal that correlates with S1 and
full-scale reading respectively. I noticed that the FM-FS reading
grossly shortchanged the dynamic range of the FT-817's RSSI
Using a service monitor I determined what the range of the '817's
was (by setting FM-FS to 255 and then noting the signal level that
"compression" - that is, where further increases in the S-Meter reading
no longer correlated with increases in signal strength) and setting
just below this. The result of this "recalibration" may be found
in Table 2.
The improvement is rather dramatic: Rather than covering only about 13 db or so (readings of 0 and F aren't useful, except for indicating too little or to much signal) the range has been increased to about 30 db. Each step was approximately 2 db - a reasonable compromise between resolution and accuracy and considering the imprecise nature of real-world signal analysis, it was more than adequate. But, there was still a problem: Even having a useful range from -109 dbm to -78 dbm wasn't sufficient for field measurements without additional attenuation.
It further occurred to me that the FT-817 had yet another parameter that could be useful here: The VHFRXG parameter (soft calibration menu #5) did precisely this. A bit of experimentation showed that using this parameter, at least 30 db of extra "attenuation" could be added. Further experimentation showed that once this amount of attenuation was determined precisely, one simply added it to the calculated signal reading. In other words, only one table needs to be constructed with all 16 signal levels and fixed constants are added to the result depending on the attenuation.
The results? Table 3 details the measurements.
As you can see, the useful signal measuring range has been extended to approximately 64 db with a resolution of roughly 2 db - a range and resolution more than adequate for our signal measurements.
I could now get down to the business of writing the software...
Because of this project I had already started determining how to read/write to/from the EEPROM in the '817 as well as what data resided at which address. Since I could already modify the "Soft Calibration" factors via the serial port, I was well on my way toward being able to use the information I had gathered to my advantage. One of the functions I wrote was responsible for getting the signal level from the '817 - a task somewhat complicated by the necessity to implement the "software" attenuator. The algorithm to do this is approximately thus:
You may be asking yourself, "Self, what about the Fresnel effects - did you take those into account?"
The answer is: Yes and No. Because the elevation of the repeater is approximately 7200 feet and our receiver was at (more or less) 4400 feet most of the time, plus the fact that we kept a distance to the repeater of between 5 and 13 miles, the "Fresnel Dip" was usually well above the intervening terrain.
Because so many pieces of data were collected - the majority of them having been taken with the vehicle in motion - it is unlikely that a "standing null" would have any significant effect on the data as a whole. Even if the data is "skewed" by a few db either way, the data can still be used in a "relative" fashion. Also, don't forget that any repeater user will also be subject to any fresnel-related degradation, so what we are getting are more "real world" readings, anyway.
What are fresnel effects? Along a signal path, if there are obstacles near the direct line-of-sight path, these objects can cause a slight change in that portion of the signal path. Some of these changes can reinforce the signal, and other can destructively cancel it. On 2 meters with a path of about 10 miles, an obstacle located midway between the transmitter and receiver that is a few hundred feet below the direct line-of-sight path can affect signals.
The result of all of this work? The signal level displayed by the program precisely tracks that applied to the '817 itself as well as can be expected considering that the resolution is approximately 2 db. I then became curious as to how well the calibration held up with a change in temperature and put the '817 in the freezer. With the '817 at approximately 35 degrees F it read a consistent 3 db low across the entire signal range- not too bad...
Note: While the "conversion table" was originally designed for use on 2 meters, I determined that additional constants could be used to provide just as accurate calibration for 6 meters and 70 cm - and I did so, allowing this program to be used on those bands as well.
The rest of the program:
The remainder of the program was rather straightforward. The additional program functions perform the following tasks:
After writing this program (in April of 2001) I was pleased and gratified that the program worked exactly as expected: The computer, radio, and GPS were connected and we simply "circumnavigated" the repeater site - a process that took several hours, some of it over very rough, 4-wheel drive high-clearance terrain. When the program was used on repeaters whose antenna system were known to work properly and whose transmit system properties were known, the display values agreed with the calculated values to within 2-3 db or so.
As for gathering the data, all that was required was to drive around and take readings. Obviously, we chose our route specifically to maintain line-of-sight with the repeater as much as possible as well as avoiding areas cluttered with building, trees, and other objects. Being able to take measurements "on the fly" was very useful - we were able to take readings while cruising down the Interstate. If we'd had to stop to take readings, we probably would not have done it alongside a freeway... Fortunately, we were able to use an auxiliary/control link to enable us to keep the repeater's transmitter keyed continuously - something that greatly helps in the collection of signal strength.
The analysis of the '76 repeater showed that there was, indeed, a very deep (25-30 db) deep null beamed precisely at the western portion of the Salt Lake valley. Furthermore, the deepest part of the null was very narrow (only about 3 degrees or so at the 10db points) - a width that could have resulted in the true depth of the null being missed entirely had the "old fashioned" signal measuring method (i.e. stopping the car, measuring the signal, etc.) used. While this null was expected, the measured magnitude was a surprise. Clearly, we'll have to look into re-mounting the antenna (or adding a "fill" antenna) to minimize this null.
Note: The described program was written in C and operates under DOS. Because it was written for "one-off" use, only enough effort was put into it to make it stable and useable: Further enhancements aren't contemplated at this point. Note that it produces raw, human-readable ASCII data that is intended to be imported into another program for analysis, or simply "looked at." If you have serious interest in this program, look at the Repeater Monitoring Software page.
A coverage map was created showing predicted signal strength of the repeater. An actual antenna pattern was derived by taking the empirical antenna gain measurements derived from mobile signal strength readings and adding to those the predicted signal loss for that location due to terrain. This derived pattern was then used to create the plot. It has "general" agreement with the field-measured data. (The map was produced with the help of VE2DBE's RadioMobile program.)
Work continues on this page - please revisit soon!
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KA7OEI FT-817 "Front Page" - This is, well,
"front" page of the '817 pages here...
Having real-time readings while driving around (the passenger was looking at the computer - not the driver!) made it possible to answer a few questions that we'd had concerning the effects of obstacles on the signal strength of 2 meter signals:
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